plan Hakone and fuji 5 lakes

hi ,
i have 4days to visit Hakone and fuji 5 lakes.
after i search internet my plan become like this :

March 10
From Ueno station ( 8 am - JR Railway) - Odawara ( Hakone tozan railway) - Gora (hakone cable car) - Souzan - Owakudani - Togendai (Hakone sighseeing boat) - Hakone machi (walk)- detached palace garden (walk) - Moto Hakone (walk) - Hakone Shrine ( bus) - Hakone Yumoto - Gotemba - Fujikawaguchiko machi ( over night at hotel)

question:
1. my schedulle is right?

2. i see from Souzan - Togendai using Hakone ropeway, so how i go to Owakudani ? from Souxan i must walk to Owakudani, and after that back, walk again to Togendai/ Souzan or they have stop at middle?

3. how from Hakone Yumoto to Gotemba ? , should i back to Odawara again and take JR Railway?

4. How from Gotemba to Fujikawaguchiko machi? my hotel near there.

5. should i take Hakone free pass or Fuji Hakone Pass ?

thank you for your help

1. my schedulle is right?

It is faster to travel from Moto-Hakone to Gotemba by boat and Odakyu bus via Togendai rather than via Yumoto.


i see from Souzan - Togendai using Hakone ropeway, so how i go to Owakudani ?

It is located along the way at the point where you transfer between the two ropeways. So, you have to get off there, anyways. There is a map of Hakone here under "how to get there":
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e5203.html

how from Hakone Yumoto to Gotemba ? , should i back to Odawara again and take JR Railway?

Again, I recommend to take the sightseeing boat from Moto-Hakone back to Togendai, and catch a Odakyu Highway Bus from there to Gotemba Station.

How from Gotemba to Fujikawaguchiko machi? my hotel near there.

By bus. There is a direct Fujikyu bus from Gotemba to Kawaguchiko, which operates about once per hour:
http://bus.fujikyu.co.jp/line/jikokuhyo/01.html

Transportation between Hakone and the Fuji 5 Lakes is also explained here with a map:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6905.html?aFROM=5200_6900

should i take Hakone free pass or Fuji Hakone Pass ?

If you return from Kawaguchiko to Tokyo afterwards and do not spend more than 3 days in total in Hakone and Kawaguchiko, then a Fuji Hakone Pass would be a suitable pass. But then you should use Odakyu Railways from Shinjuku on day 1 rather than JR to get to Odawara.

Hi again Uji :D,

you mean better i take fuji hakone pass, because i will at fuji 5 lakes area 3 days.

which one better ( more efficient )

Plan A
March 10 from Ueno station ( mid day)- Kawaguchiko ( stay over night there ) ----- using my last day JR PASS

March 11, 12 -----explore fuji 5 lakes
March 13 ------ to Hakone, doing Hakone loop , and i must at Haneda airport 8 pm back to Indonesia ( my flight 23.45 pm)

for my 3 days ( March 11,12,13 ) buy Fuji Hakone Pass

or

Plan B
March 10 go to Hakone first, doing Hakone loop then go to Kawaguchiko station. (buy Fuji Hakone Pass)

11-13 march explore Fuji 5 lakes then go Haneda airport.

in this case if i buy Fuji Hakone Pass, means on March 13 i must buy some pass again to explore fuji 5 lakes.

so which one better plan A or plan B

The Fuji Hakone Pass is valid for only three consecutive calendar days. Since you will be underway for four calendar days and - in addition to that - consider traveling directly to Haneda afterwards instead of returning to Tokyo, the pass is not ideal. It is probably better to buy regular tickets and consider a Hakone Free Pass for Hakone.

Of the two options, I like the second one better because it is easier to get to Haneda from Hakone. In fact, there is a direct bus:
http://www.odakyu-hakonehighway.co.jp/common/pdf/english.pdf

Also, I recommend to spend more time in Hakone. I think that Hakone has at least as much to see and do as the Fuji 5 Lake region if not more.

Hello,
How about the following plan:
From Ueno station ( 8 am - JR Railway) šC Odawara ( Hakone tozan railway) - Gora (hakone cable car) - Souzan - Owakudani - Togendai (Hakone sightseeing boat) - Hakone machi (walk)- detached palace garden (walk) - Hakone Shrine (walk)- Motohakone-ko (Hakone sighseeing boat) šCTogendai(Odakyu Hakone Highway Bus)- Gotemba - Fujikawaguchiko machi ( over night at hotel)

I think it is better to take a sightseeing boat from Motohakone-ko to Togendai-ko instead of just taking a bus to Hakone-Yumoto. There is a bus bound for Gotenba named ¡°Odakyu Hakone Highway Bus, Hakone Line¡± at Tgendai.
http://www.odakyu-hakonehighway.co.jp/common/pdf/english.pdf

If you buy a regular ticket there, the total will be 4840 yen. So, I recommend to purchase ¡°Hakone Free ticket¡± at Odawara station (3900yen. valid for 2days). By doing so, you can get on and off 7 kinds of transportation freely. In addition, the ropeway stops at Sounzan-Owakudani-Ubako-Togendai. It is better to take the ropeway from Owakudani to Tgendai.
http://www.hakonenavi.jp/english/freepass/index.html

http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/location/rtg/pdf/pg-405.pdf#search='gotenba ¡«fujikawagutchiko access'

The site will offer helpful information to you.
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/03/hakone-round-trip-day-on...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/17/hakone-round-trip-day-on...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2011/11/18/toriiyaki-matsuri-at-hak...

In addition, there is a direct bus bound for Haneda Air Port at Gotenba. I recommend to use it if you leave Haneda.
Hope you make a wonderful memory in Japan

Ai-san, thank you for information but will explore Hakone the last day from Kawaguchiko before going to Haneda

Kawaguchiko station ( bus) - Gotemba (Odakyu Hakone Highway Bus)put my lugage here - Togendai (Hakone ropeway) - Owakudani - Togendai ((Hakone sighseeing boat) -Hakone machi (walk)- detached palace garden (walk) - Hakone Shrine (walk)- Motohakone-ko (Hakone sighseeing boat) šCTogendai (Odakyu Hakone Highway Bus) - Gotemba - Haneda airport

because i am not really doing loop , so still need buy Hakone free pass ?

have time table bus from Kawaguchiko to Gotemba?

should i left my lugage to Gotemba or Togendai? which one hv locker?

thank you

I guess it is better to buy a Hakone free pass anyways if you are riding Odakyu highway bus (Gotenba-Togendai), ropeway (Owakudani-Togendai), and ship (Togendai-Motohakone).
You can get a Hakone Free Pass at Gotenba which costs only 3,900yen and covers all the ride you are going to use.
But if you change your plan and not going to use Odakyu highway bus from Gotenba, then just get a gKaizokusenERopeway one day ticketh (2,500 yen) which you can enjoy the two rides, Kaizokusen and ropeway in Hakone .
http://www.hakoneropeway.co.jp/foreign/en/index.html

Time table is available from the sites below:
https://www.navitime.co.jp/en
http://bus.fujikyu.co.jp/line/jikokuhyo/01.html
http://www.jrbuskanto.co.jp/bus_route/cotimep01.cfm?pa=1&pb=1&pc=j0010...

Also, there are several places where you can leave your luggage at each station. Please ask the staff when you get there. (If your luggage is not that big, just put them in a rocker, and if it is too big to put in, then ask the station staff. They will keep your luggage while you are enjoying Hakone.) –It is not free.

As the additional information, there is a bus that takes you from Hakone-yumoto to Haneda airport. So it is the other route to enjoy all over the Hakone. If you go Haneda from Hakone-yumoto, then it means you can enjoy most of the rides you can use with Hakone free pass. (Ropeway, Bus, Ship, Cable car, and Tozan railway)

Please check the URLs to make your trip more fun!
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2011/12/16/hakone-open-air-museum-a...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/03/hakone-round-trip-day-on...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/17/hakone-round-trip-day-on...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/07/editor-in-chief%e2%80%99...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/17/information-about-hakone...

Well, anyways, I hope you will choose the best plan for you and enjoy your trip to Hakone!
Thank you for reading all the way till here.
Have a safe trip!.

Sorry,

I wrote gKaizokusenh before, that means Hakone sighseeing boat.

Have fun and take care.

hi Ai,
i will go Haneda from Gotemba ( because put my lugage at there)
should i buy some ticket to Haneda airport again?

because if i buy Hakone free pass, it cover by odakyu highway bus from Gotemba to togendai.

from Gotemmba to Haneda use Odakyu highway bus too, right?

Hello,
Yes, still you need to get the other tickets for Haneda-Gotenba since the Hakone Free pass doesnft cover the other area. I guess it is because Gotenba and Haneda airport both are not in Hakone area.

Here are some additional information if you need.
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2012/02/07/editor-in-chief%e2%80%99...
http://amazing-kanagawa.jp/english/2011/11/04/hakone-yumoto-airliner-s...

Thank you.